The latest entry in PBS’ Blank On Blank video series finds the late Lou Reed doing what he did best: being an iconoclast and having hard opinions on things. In the lost interview conducted in 1987, Reed talked about his past work with the Velvet Underground, but he had some harsh words for the work of his more successful Sixties contemporaries.

“I never liked the Beatles,” Reed said. “I thought they were garbage.” Reed went further to say that “when [bands] got, in quotes, ‘arty,’ it was worse than stupid rock ‘n’ roll.” He then went on to cite The Doors as an example of “stupid rock ‘n’ roll,” so it doesn’t seem that he liked much of anything.

You can watch an animated version of the whole interview below: